[Andy]

Hi, guys

emailed this one to bachmann,

I’ve bought a dynamis system and a 36-561 switchpilot connected to 4 Peco PL10E, however they don't move, I’ve read the manual and set the outputs for Peco deceives to give the extra power. Reading the updated ESU manual on the web for the switch pilot it suggests that an external power transformer should be used for Peco devices. Would the 36-520 5amp power booster be able to supply the power need for it? Or can you recommend one which can give me the extra power? Or should the switch pilot be able cope with 4 Peco devices and nothing else connected?

[Andy]

Reading this forum.

www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32290&start=0

Looks like you have to plug an external transformer in. but the bachmann instructions don't really suggest that, however the true manufacturer instructions clearly state it (ESU) who also build the Dynamis system.

I’m going to wait to see what Bachmann have to say before plugging my Gaugemaster controller to give the extra power

[Andy]

Ok tested it with my Gaugemaster controller of the 16V, and still nothing but the led on the switchpilot will now flash. But will won’t change the turnout motors, on a PL34 wiring loom the +ve is the green one? (The one which splits in 2?) because that has to go to the Common slot.

the handset can see the accessory, it think it might be a issue with writing the value 1 to CV 3-6. because when i go to program on main track it doesn't do anythink, but on service track it says programming. but the instructions say program on main track

also just tested the turnouts with a spare switch and a 16V controller on DC which works,

[SkyFire]

Thinking, it shouldn't make any difference what track your programming on. The main reason for not programming on the mainline is that if you multiple locos on that track you will program them all at the same time, which could cause problems later on.

Are you sure your not trying to throw the points in the direction they are already thrown, in other words make sure your not trying to move them from the divergant route to straight through if they are already set they way!!!

[Andy]

it’s not that there trying to throw in the place they are now, because I’ve tried swapping the red and black wires. But you can manually move it because they become loose after the throw it’s just a magnetic effect and then held in place by the point’s spring. Also at the moment it’s just all put together off the board for testing.

[SkyFire]

Dunno if this will help or not, but it does have a wiring diagram on it.

www.kato-unitrack.co.uk/peco-pl-34-point-wiring-loom-26459-0.html

Can the DCC decoder you have switch an external power supply, my thinking is if it can, then use a Capacitor Discharge Unit which will provide plenty of power to throw the points.

[Andy]

I’ve seen that diagram that’s why I assume that green is + Ve because output A which I’ve put the red wire in and B which has the black one. Because they swapped between A and B by the switch pilot to swap the power, I think the external power supply has enough power because I tested it with a simple switch from my n-gauge railway. I’ve tried everything with this manually setting the address, using the button to auto pick up an address. Starting to think it’s a faulty switch pilot, because the instructions say 04/08 on them and they reading on it the first Bach had fault decoders.

[SkyFire]

With a switch machine it dosen't matter if the green wire is plus or minus as it's just 2 coils of wire. I think I would have had it on the minus side of things though, but thats the way I do my wiring though.

Try replacing the switch pilot and if it then works, the old one is faulty, but if it still dosen't work then umm, I'm out of ideas.

[Andy]

But on a switchpilot the 2 outputs A and B are –VE so the green has to go to the + VE else you would end up with red and black both being on and both –VE rather than a Green +VE going to a black –VE or Red –VE. I guess on an AC supply it doesn’t mater which way it is. But DCC is DC rather than AC?

[SkyFire]

DCC supplies AC current at 16 volts, the decoder then rectifies this to 0 - 12 volts DC.

The wiring I was thinking of, is the way it would be done on my layout which is still analog, (for now). Forgetting the decoder might be differently wired.

[Andy]

Well, I’ve now just ordered one of these www.esu.eu/en/products/lokprogrammer/
So hopefully I’ll be able to read the values on the switchpilot and final get a answer to if it’s faulty or the Bachmann Dynamis controller which I use to write values is rubbish. I think the lokprogrammer will come in handy for reprogramming trains as well. As doing it with the Dynamis is like nearly impossible.

[SkyFire]

Good luck and hope it finally solves the problem.

[Andy]

The answer is... big drum roll the decoder for the switchpilot is bust, i can use the new esu programmer to read one of my trains but it errors if i try to read the switchpilot. so i've contacted the shop to ask for a refund or a replacement. btw i love the esu programmer so easy to use. a much recomend product.

[SkyFire]

Yay good to finally know what was wrong with it. Hope you can get a replacement one soon.

[Andy]

My switchpilot came today, programmed it with the esu programmer took a matter of seconds to do. Fitted all the Peco switches and used the remote and it works. No need for an extra transformer. Just works only from the Bachmann Dynamis controller.